MrSpring Dance Show

[stayin alive]

now heres a guy totally out of touch with the current dance scene .....some of the music he played was bodering on the rediculous {spell check ] , im sorry mr ''voice of irish dance ''but nobody is playing , dancing or even buying this rubbish because it's out of date ...may i recommend you visit the radio 1 web site and click on the dance section , maybe you'll get a few tips as to what styles are happening , and check out the calender on your wall , it'll say , 2002 , yeah , thats this year , clubbers are moving on ....

see ya .....

[pa transistor]

What you hear on radio 1 may very well be suited to the uk market but
i recon springer playes the tunes that seem to satisfy most of the irish
audience. Go and hear him play in a club and should provide livig proof.
He sells clubs out up and down the country.

[stayin alive]

yeah ok so he sells out clubs , but look at the crowd he attracts ,most of them are usually so out of their heads they dont realise they are dancing to crap .......to them it's not about the music it's all about yob culture .....i sometimes listen to al gibbs on 104 and i have to say his selection of music is top notch and the chances are that some of them wil actually sell and most jocks will show an interest in what he plays , he even has listeners who enjoy clubbing and appreciate a good track ...as for the uk market , it generally dictates music styles for most clubs around the world , unlike ''irelands voice of dance ''

i rest my case ..

see ya........

[Bren Long]

I wouldn't say that the UK scene dictates music styles worldwide.
Try putting on a UK Progressive night in Detroit, a Tribal House night anywhere in France or even a UK Garage night here in Ireland. They just won't work.

[krisp]

Spring has a huge following in the country 'cos of what he plays on the radio.It appeals obviously to the audience(of which there are many)who attend his gigs!

[Darren B]

Originally posted by Bren Long
I wouldn't say that the UK scene dictates music styles worldwide.
Try putting on a UK Progressive night in Detroit, a Tribal House night anywhere in France or even a UK Garage night here in Ireland. They just won't work.

I agree with Bren on that one. Only Ireland can dictate its own music scene. The scene is dictated by the dj's and promoters in this country not by those in the Uk.

[Sarah Baybay]

Originally posted by stayin alive
yeah ok so he sells out clubs , but look at the crowd he attracts ,most of them are usually so out of their heads they dont realise they are dancing to crap .......to them it's not about the music it's all about yob culture

You admit he sells out clubs ..... so how can you say nobody is playing , dancing or even buying this rubbish because it's out of date ????? you're contradicting yourself there!
And i'm sorry but i'm NOT into the yob scene and i'm never out of my head but that doesnt mean i dont enjoy the stuff spring plays

...may i recommend you visit the radio 1 web site Oh please ..... I for one do not want to be force fed the English scene, i can listen to Radio 1 myself if i think that would suit me more .........

I think you're on your own here with this arguement.
Have fun :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[stayin alive]

ok i agree i contradicted myself regarding filling clubs , but the club scene is changing rapidly in ireland and this guy is still churning out a style of music which most dj's worth anything would flush down their toilet ........look at any of the venues around the country playing to this style of audience , most of them are run down dumps who will try anything to fill their clubs and will generally accept anything that comes to their doors ..go to ibiza , cyprus ,where most 17 plus go , and they'll come home talkin about dance music that is healthy , funky , and appeals to their generation ......hats off to , gibbs , mccabe , tong , pearce , sanchez , now they are the real crowd pullers , not some ego tripper who is so out of touch im surprised he's even allowed on national radio .......i rest my case .......AGAIN

[vinylpusher]

Not sure I can agree with you there Stayin Alive, and I'm starting to get weary of your obsession with Al Gibbs.
What this boils down to is your own perception of the tunes that Springer is playing.
There's a saying that goes "one mans cheese is another mans caviar"
Regardless of what you think, there's a massive difference between the club scene in Dublin and the scene outside it.
Fact of the matter is that Springer is huge outside Dublin, and just the mere mention of him being added to the bill is certain to guarantee the numbers on the night.

[stayin alive]

maybe iv'e just become very disolusioned with the whole dance scene in ireland because of the crap people like mr spring and irelands no 1 dj frank kennedy swear by . i just feel the scene over here is changing and a lot of music is being rejected by clubbers .......4 or 5 years ago the pod was ''theeee'' place to be because that style of music was important to those who made it their weekend highlight but not anymore ....i love dance and i wish it was as popular as it used to be but im sorry , guys like mr spring have limited appeal and the small minority who like him are not really in touch with what i call ''healthy dance music ''
just my view which i can understand no everybody will agree with , but thats ok.......for the record , i dont know al gibbs at all , in fact i never met him ,i just think his show on fridays is fresh , in touch and i like a lot of the music he plays ......
cheers again ...

[vinylpusher]

In fairness to Spring, he's been the first to play top tunes also. A recent example being Mac & Mac's "Testify" which has been filling floors up and down the country.
As for the laughably titled Ireland's #1 DJ, I don't think that any ardent clubber takes him seriously. He's into the under 18s market (no pun intended) and what's he educating the youngsters with? Dune, Scooter and a host of other 'exclusive' promos from 1994.

I don't believe that the Pod was ever seen as the place to be musically. RedBox maybe, but not the Pod. The important thing to the punters there was wearing a more exclusive line of Armani or Gucci than the next person.

Dance is still as popular as it was before, you're just not looking in the right places.

[stayin alive]

thank vinyl pusher , your opinion is valued ..

cheers .......

[vinylpusher]

Originally posted by stayin alive
........ i just feel the scene over here is changing and a lot of music is being rejected by clubbers .......

....i love dance and i wish it was as popular as it used to be but im sorry , guys like mr spring have limited appeal and the small minority who like him are not really in touch with what i call ''healthy dance music ''


Great point, and something I could talk about all day.
It's generally regarded that there is a bit of a lull in club culture. Personally, I blame the media. All too often they've proclaimed "the next big thing" and many of the large numbers of clubbers, labels, superclubs, etc followed these proclamations like rats following the Pied Piper.
This time, however, the media got it wrong and the current "in sound", which incidentally is a revived version of the Renaissance sound of '94, sounds old hat and worn out to many of the spoon-fed masses.
I think this lull is a good thing and it will get rid of the unhealthy crap which has saturated the scene. All the 'clubbers', pundits, clubs, publications, greedy promoters, etc who jumped on the bandwagon, are disappearing just as fast as they latched onto it, which can only lead to the scene regaining it's proper status & health.

Ireland's scene is still strong. Go to Spirit, Mono, Tivoli and a host of other clubs outside Dublin and you'll see a packed house week in week out. More & more Irish artists are being signed to labels (The Mook, Tome Cole & Mark Kavanagh are just 3 examples).
There's even a hard house compilation sitting at no.2 in the album charts this week. I think that this is evidence enough to show that there is still a lot of strength in the scene for it to last some time yet.
There's still a lot of crap out there, and I understand your being disillusioned, but believe me, it won't be long before you see the crap gone and club culture back as vibrant, exciting and healthy as ever.

[stayin alive]

i really hope mr spring reads this .
he goes on to say ''we need to protect our children from buying and subcribing to pop shite and we are killing a generation of music lovers by allowing it to exist ''. not everybody shares the same music taste as you do so dont ram your opinions down the throats of kids who probably never even heard of you anyway .
kids will buy music they like wheather it's pop, dance, rock , grunge , soul , 70's wheather they heard it on radio or tv or any other form ,it's what interests them and it's what they enjoy .who says it's bad music ? YOU ? , oh sorry , i must change my daughters cd collection because a narrowminded ego tripper who thinks he knows it all says so .
i dodent matter wheather we all agree most pop is awful , it's what kids choose to listen to and if we were to force our own taste of music on them , daytime radio would sound like the 'mr spring 'show 24/7 , and we'd all end up brain dead
if you had your way radio would be dead within a matter of months ....
dont slag off something just because it dosent fit in with your so called ''cool'' , image, your not qualified to to represent the youth in this country

long live kylie ...

bye

[Mosfet]

Does anyone listen 2FM anymore or did anyone ever listen to it????????If so why?:rolleyes: :confused:

[7incher]

Stayin Alive::: WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR PROBLEM?????!

This is your second attack on Mr Spring and I notice John had to censor some of your comments recently.

You bring nothing but negativity to this board.

[silly billy]

I'd be of the same opinion as Stayin' Alive on this one...

Mr Spring's Show is a laugh now and again, but musically, it's more often than not filled up with obscure dance tracks that, now that the whole dance rage of the ninties is (finally) fading, appeal only to a bunch of dance anoraks and DJs - who are either on the tiles or working on a Saturday night.

Spring's exposure to "Chic, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Kraftwerk, Tonto's expanding headband, The Police, Donna summer, Roy orbison, Jerry Lee Lewis, AC/DC, Ultravox, Kate Bush, XTC, Squeeze and even Kid creole & The coconuts" isn't unusual - I could put together a list of my own influences that would be equally impresive, and I do think I have a fairly discerning pallette.

However, I still like my pop, mainstream and commerical tunes too. Don't we all? After all, it wouldn't be called mainstream if we didn't.

Aside from the music - Spring's links (like his website) are ego-fuelled "me" trips (see "i`m elated that the limp attempts to have me silenced/removed have been so innefective"), and his online pontificating only further convinces me that he's living a niche-audience targeted, idealistic pipe-dream.

[stayin alive]

the problem i have with this fool is it annoys me when somedody with limited talent and appeal can force his narrowminded views on people who are not really interested in what he has to say .
who does he think he is ? just because he dosen't like a certain style of music dosen't mean nobody else should enjoy it .
with regard to his dance show , he's probably the only dj who is still playing the rubbish he throws out on a saturday night ,it's awful and has limited appeal but he insists on claiming it's the way ahead .
the last post {silly billy } is very accurate in his description ,
''appealing only to a bunch of dance anoracks and dj's ''.
i do agree his links can be quite amusing at times but i just cant take his music seriously . sorry if not everybody agrees with me but i just dont like his opinionated aragorance ......

[KJ]

His whole point is that todays generation are exposed to mostly manufactured hyped crap. They are force fed marketing ploys and are brainwashed into liking the most godawful sh*te. Spring has an ego, yes, but you will find that most talented successful people do

You say "limited talent" Stayin Alive?!

From Radioactive studios to Scary Eire, to Sound Crowd, to Red Records, to Sunset radio, to Dance Nation, to Manifesto, to DT/Spring records, to 2FM and everything in between, Tim's past efforts and endeavours speak for themselves. He's outspoken yes, but he afford to be because he understands where dance music has been, where it is and where its going



with regard to his dance show , he's probably the only dj who is still playing the rubbish he throws out on a saturday night ,it's awful and has limited appeal but he insists on claiming it's the way ahead

:rolleyes:

The "only DJ" playing hard/underground dance??! lol ......... no one else is playing it then??

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

I also have to agree with 7incher saying you're pretty negative Stayin Alive, most of your recent posts reflect a bad attitude.

If you're gonna post about dance music and its DJs please know what you're talking about in future

Love

KJ

;)

PS - Would you like some salt for that chip on your shoulder? :p

[stayin alive]

the names you mentioned above kelly hardly made the earth move and certainly didn't change the face of dance music .
all it did was jump on the 90's dance bandwagon and became a huge part of yob culture.as for spring knowing where dance music is going ? mother of god kelly , you are so out of touch aren't you . the music is dated my good friend , dance music has changed are are you still stuck in the 90's just like him .

love back .

[KJ]

you're a bloody plonker mate ........... Im not even gonna bother to pick the gaping holes of your argument

Spring "jumped on a wagon" then did?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

enuff!

KJ

[stayin alive]

ok kelly , lets call a truce her ,theres enough misery in the world without 2 people arguing on the net about dj's and music styles so ill apoligise and admit i kinda started it . your views are respected so please dont take any of my comments personal or insulting ....
all i was trying to say was , mr spring has no right to publicaly knock pop music just because it's not within his musical taste and he strikes me as a very narrowminded individual ..i heard him on d.fannings show bad mouthing every bloody song that was up for review and he came across as a musical snob ..
i love dance music kelly and have been to many events with people like , Nick Warren , Graham Parke , Fat boy , and Robbie Butler , just because i like them dosen't mean everybody else has to , and it annoys me when people like him think that their taste is the b all and end all .....pop music has been around for over 30 years and will continue to grow because teenagers go for image and style and fantasy , thats what turns them on ...
i agree theres a well known irish music guru who has dragged decent pop through the gutter but thats the bad side of it kelly, theres also a good side to it . maybe i am a plonker in your view but thats ok , no offence taken kelly because i probably came across that way but from what i know {maybe not a lot } the dance scene in ireland has deteriorated in the last 18 months and a lot of big names are not pulling crowds , i dont know the reason and ill never claim to be an expert ...
just my opinion kelly and maybe im being as narrow minded as mr spring {i dont know }.
anyway i hope this clears things up and hopefully you'll accept my opinion as i promise to listen to your views with an open mind in the future ......
cheers

[Painted Press]

hey guys, where's the love?!!

This quote has to be the best worded ever on this site:

"His online pontificating only further convinces me that he's living a niche-audience targeted, idealistic pipe-dream."

Very well written.

I dont why you're defending Mr. Srping Kelly - he's been let loose an on ego-driven rampage on 2FM with no boundries to obey. He shoots his mouth off, talks in-talk, plays wickedly awful music and occasionally comes out with a very funny link.

His broadcasting history is v suspect...the IRTC were on the brink of taking the licence off Easy 103 (not that it wasnt fucked anyway) when he was "programme controller" and insisted on swearing every night on air, he's reknowned (everywhere) for being a really obnoxious, pushy, egotistical chap, and he would have no time for the likes of me or you anyhow..

Some of my friends laugh at the guy, running his little round table of back-clappling, arse-licking jocks from the "scene" - it does 2FM no favours!

The big mystery is how he can get away with the shite he puts out on the national pop station without any management intervention (or do they have any management there at all???)

You may defend him, but I dont think you're really thinking too much about it