View Full Version : Is radio scared of Radiowaves?
dlccr973
6th September 2004, 18:17
I'm just wondering this!!
Are people who work in stations such as PD's paronoid with what people say about them on these boards??
Think about it, if there are loads of us saying bad things for very good reason's of course does anyone think that PD's register under different names in order to make themselves appear more competent then they actually are.. Or do any of them care what is said here?
It is my own personal view that some PD's care what is said about them! Just with some of the posts of recent that got me thinking!
jolishan
6th September 2004, 19:02
Most PD's can't access the forum on a golf course so I wouldn't worry;p
Pat McGee
7th September 2004, 07:33
I would have to agree with you dlccr973.
I would know of some individuals on these boards who are high up in radio stations and post here to bring down the reputation of other Programme Directors. It is really pathetic, in my opinion.
The sad thing is that anyone who has worked with these individuals know exactly who they are!
Isn’t that correct? (Watch the silence)
Radio Anorak
7th September 2004, 15:29
I honestly don't think most PD's would give a rats what is said about them on this board. Why should they? At the end of the day, they are running professional stations that are doing well (Well, some of them anyway) and bringing in enough €€€ to keep them going with nice annual profits, so why would what is said on this board affect their business judgements and skills. I could say such and such is sh**e, but just because myself and a few others might say something, it's not going to make them change their perception of how they want their station to sound and be. Just my 2 cents.
Astec
7th September 2004, 15:49
I would be of the opinion that the board is read by many in the legal sector but many might be wary of participating due to the fact that radiowaves.fm was originally aimed at those in the pirate sector.
Over time radiowaves.fm, to its credit, has broadened its appeal covering all radio at home and some from abroad making it a valuable and neutral information source. This is evident from the news section. It would be fair that the forum has not followed suite with many, to be frank, petty and frivolous postings.
A+1K
7th September 2004, 15:59
Originally posted by Astec
. It would be fair that the forum has not followed suite with many, to be frank, petty and frivolous postings.
Its not often peoples opinions can be explained with such Grandeur.....:frust:
Who's to say who listens/reads aand to what they pay attention. I for one Couldn't really care less and certainly wouldn't post to suit ........Pure unadulturated BS if people only post in the hope of reaching one IMO.
John Fleming
7th September 2004, 16:04
I would be of the opinion that the board is read by many in the legal sector but many might be wary of participating due to the fact that radiowaves.fm was originally aimed at those in the pirate sector.
I hear allsorts and a recurring theme is that in some 'legal' circles it is felt that Radiowaves.FM is a 'pirate' website, and i hear from pirate circles that it's a 'legal' website. I'm pleased that everybody feels it is wide-ranging, but all should stop pigeonholing it and just sit back and (hopefully) enjoy it for what it is!
The truth is that Radiowaves.FM has always been a tribute and database site dedicated to Irish RADIO in all its various forms, past and present. As a result, there is a huge amount of material about the pirate scene - for obvious reasons.
The Irish contributions on the Radiowaves Newspage reflects the news that is submitted to us.
Just wanted to put the record straight.
dlccr973
7th September 2004, 16:18
I could name two top stations that disaprove of this site and I could name a few people at the top who contribute to this site but then again I am not that cynical or am I? ;)
Anyway John I'm sure you know exactly who I am on about!
Mike
7th September 2004, 17:28
I could also name such a station although I would hardly describe it as a "top station" :rolleyes:
Anyway feck the begrudgers :moon:
Hugo
8th September 2004, 10:48
As someone who works in the legal sector I can assure you that no one I know is "afraid" of Radiowaves. Most people I speak to are often amused by the comments made here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but some of the posts about legal stations are made from an uninformed view. Legal commercial radio is a completely different ball game and it seems that many of those who post here don't understand this (why would they, unless they've worked for a legal station?). Rest assured that John Taylor won't lose any sleep over the fact that someone who has been working on a dance pirate for a few months doesn't like 98!
One of the interesting thigs is the number of people who post anti-legal stuff here but still send demos to the commercial stations!
Mike
8th September 2004, 16:42
Hugo in most cases youre probably right but
One of the interesting thigs is the number of people who post anti-legal stuff here but still send demos to the commercial stations!
Hell I wouldnt be suprised if some of the "people who post anti-legal stuff here "already WORK for the the commercial stations :lol:
radioyobbo
9th September 2004, 17:18
Originally posted by John Fleming
I hear allsorts and a recurring theme is that in some 'legal' circles it is felt that Radiowaves.FM is a 'pirate' website, and i hear from pirate circles that it's a 'legal' website. I'm pleased that everybody feels it is wide-ranging, but all should stop pigeonholing it and just sit back and (hopefully) enjoy it for what it is!
Thats the thing John, those from the "legal" circles who hold this view feel they're "too good" to be posting yet will do under sudo-names.
And "pirate" heads who "click together" slag off the legals and blame them for all that happens, forgetting that they are infact illegally broadcasting.
If everyone would just realise that we all work for the one industry and gel together we'd be better off - thats what john's doing here - providing a service for the Irish Radio Industry. and a rather great job aswel sir!
Mike
9th September 2004, 19:00
I wouldnt read too much into that
People have all kind of reasons for using psudeonyms the majority of radiowaves contributers fo so and remember many jocks (pirate or legal) dont even use their real names on air
Pierce
9th September 2004, 20:05
Why do legit stations advertize on this board if they dont like it . In My opinion they would not advertize for radio jobs if they dissaproved of this board.
Hugo
10th September 2004, 11:39
Originally posted by Pierce
Why do legit stations advertize on this board if they dont like it . In My opinion they would not advertize for radio jobs if they dissaproved of this board.
They have no problem with the site, they just take objection to some of the comments made. The reality is that, in the grand scheme of things, the opinions of anoraks and jocks (pirate or legal) don't matter one bit. The only people whose opinions matter are the listeners and, given the latest jnlr results, 98 and 104 will see no reason to replace a presenter or adjust their music policy because someone on here has a complaint about it.
They advertise here because there are a few talented individuals on pirate stations and the best way to attract them is through what is perceived as a "pirate site".
Liamo
11th September 2004, 00:33
There's a difference between making a valid point (possibly in criticism) and "slagging off". Many people post here love radio, and many observations and comments made are because they hate to see the fact that all stations are becoming clones of each other; others do post less constructive remarks, and occasionally there's the odd post that's driven by nothing but spite.
That said, these boards should be viewed as a legitimate resource by those who plan programming; rather than just having listeners disappear off the stations JNLR percentage, the PDs should look here to determine why people are tuning out, or even pre-empt a bad performance by improving their station based on comments read here.
The fact that these boards aren't associated with any legals, and treat all stations the same way should be a bonus, as any views here aren't censored or biased, and given some of the discussions I've had, they seem to have a proper spread across the various opinions/"demographics".
Everything gets discussed here; from music policies, through imaging to opinions on voice-tracking....definitely (to the right PD who isn't under the thumb of some major preconceived corporate idea of what he's allowed do) a valuable resource rather than a threat.
And while there are some pirates and ex-broadcasters here who would probably apply for a job advertised here, there seem to be just as many legal DJs and presenters here.....and since everyone here posts under a pseudonym, it's not a case of having something to hide (although I'd admit it could be handy on occasions if you don't want your boss to know that you want to do more than trot out the latest cliche or Louis Walsh "hit").
phil fagan
9th October 2004, 08:34
I just want to add a couple of points to this post. Firstly, this website imo is probably the top website for the Radio Industry in Ireland whether it be Commericial, Community or whatever.Who else gives free programme listings of ALL radio stations, who else displays an "independent" viewpoint of Radio?
I don't believe that the legals are "scared" of this website, in fact I'd say they look at this with interest but wouldn't openly admit it
Granted not every comment or post is going to be good (i'll admit to that myself, I'm only human:dunce:)but what you have to remember is we are expressing our views as individuals and no matter how weird you view or opinion is, you and me as individuals, are intitled to express it. Thats the beauty of this site.
As for usernames issue, as long as individuals have only 1 username there should be no problem. People with 2 or 3 usernames is when I would get worried ie, whats thier real mission here?
Finally, Long live the Radio Debate, Its good and its healthy to express your opinion:cheers:
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