Music Trends

[Liamo]

Opinions required on the following observation.

At a recent gig by Escapade in Dolan's, the entire crowd, aged I'd say between 17 and 35, thoroughly enjoyed a well-performed cover set that ranged from 70s to 00s, and a great night out was had by all.

Try playing anything like similar set at a regular weekly club gig, and everyone will start whinging.

What's the story ? Is there now a definitive line between varied quality music being performed live and manufactured "ring-tone" pop and dance being played in clubs ?

[jolishan]

At the risk of being accused of being either sexist or a snob i think the problem is an ongoing thing on several different fronts
1.The "Girlies"..these are the most annoying..pure sheep who are driven by charts only and have the brain power of a toilet doorknob..The conversation is usually started by the words "have ya any Beyonce/R&B/Chart Music..it is completely beyond them that at that very moment the jock may be playing something new.
2. The Handbaggies..these are again females who only want the cheesiest songs imaginable..everything you are playing or are likely to play is offensive to these ducks and only the idea of The Nolan Sisters being put on repeat will sooth their savage brow
3.The Dance Heads..these are usally guys who have recently shoplifted/borrowed a CD of "Ibiza" style cool cuts and having mastered the names of the tracks/performers are only too keen to show their newly found taste in "real music" off..everything else you play will be met by a shake of the head and the everpresent "'story bro?"
4. The Student.This creature is usually very polite on first approach and will usually begin his rant with the word " I know it may not fit in with your set but"..he will then explain to you why The Happy Mondays/Nirvana/Dead Frogs Play Blue will go down a treat with the crowd and also save any passing whales
5 The Drunk.This pondlife can approach at any time and will usually start off by telling you " I'm a DJ myself/My brother is a DJ and I/He would never play the crap you have played".This rant will be interupted on a couple of occasions for a belch or to tell you that what he is saying is for your own benifit
.........................In nearly all cases the person in your ear will be a fully fledged knuckle dragging knacker that you wouldn't talk to in a blind blue fit outside of your job.
Always remember one thing..once a person steps foot inside a club he/she becomes the coolest person they know and its your job in their eyes to make them seem even cooler..never mind playing a great cross section of music..never mind introducing them to new stuff..and God forbid you should create a great atmosphere while ignoring their rants.
And anyway..they have all seen The Commitments and are scared stiff of giving the band the same abuse they would try and give a jock as they would be afraid the drummer would come down and kill them!!
Remeber..we do what we do despite the pondlife not because of them and all we can do is hope the ones who have a good night out appreciete it

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Originally posted by Liamo
What's the story ? Is there now a definitive line between varied quality music being performed live and manufactured "ring-tone" pop and dance being played in clubs ?

According to a TV programme I saw:

there's two types of people... those who accept what they hear on TV, radio etc and those who are more picky about what they'll listen to... the first type will hear a name like 'S Club 7' or 'The Cheeky Girls' and automatically think that's what's in and cool... the other type don't swallow what they're fed...

So I take it the second type must decide what they want to hear (and not the other way round)... what you experienced was that diversity in action?

[A+1K]

I dojn't know about the "Diversity" point entirely, I believe that it's not purely down to People persay, mopre to do with their mood's, mood preferences.

I for one have a very diverse taste in music, Everything from ACDC to ZZ Top with almost every imaginable taste in between, I love Clubbing and do so regularly. I do however on the ODD occasion like attend the like of Dolans, Eamonn Dorans etc. But like everything else the mood has to take me.

I will say that there are sections in society that purely devote their Aural senses to specific forms of music and only that style.....
But this like everything is down to preferences.

Just a point re the groupings below, I note there's no Rockers, Grunge people, most of whom like their live entertainment AND clubs!!!

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Among the earliest studies of representation is Stan Cohen's study of Mods and Rockers in the mid-1960s. He argued that the media labelled youth culture in a stereotyped and negative way, thus creating "folk devils" and their activities were reported in such a way as to create "moral panic". Moral panic occurs when...

"A condition, episode, person or group of persons emerges to become defined as a threat to societal values and interests".

Youth Culture Coverage...

Cohen argued that the media's role in structuring public awareness is vitally important. By amplifying the problem, the media created a social reaction against the Mods and rockers. It galvanised public awareness and police activity. The exaggerated facts scared the public and led the courts to take unusually tough action. A reprehensible and escalating spiral was set in motion, which bore little relation to the real situation.

Moral Panics also have interesting side effects...

Without moral panics, many forms of youth culture would never have taken off in the first place. Without such coverage, the "acid house" culture would never have become as popular as it did. The media therefore not only distorts contemporary reality, it can also construct future reality.

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Just thinking, anthems are what seem to sell... more faceless compilations like; UK garage, trance/ techno from abroad and chilled stuff is affected by fashions... whether the style is on or not etc... it's no wonder the likes of Hot FM are going all out on anthems at the mo.

[LisaLavish]

Originally posted by jolishan
3.The Dance Heads..these are usally guys who have recently shoplifted/borrowed a CD of "Ibiza" style cool cuts and having mastered the names of the tracks/performers are only too keen to show their newly found taste in "real music" off..everything else you play will be met by a shake of the head and the everpresent "'story bro?"




Had to laugh at that comment,as regards commercial dance music yes but dance music as a whole no way...yeh you get your dodge head here&there but dont you everywhere nowadays?

[Mercury FM]

Most "dance heads" wouldn't set foot in these kind of venues and if they did i doubt they'd be requesting songs.. more drink probably..

N.O