Let's be careful out there....

[Hack]

A friend of mine reports that Energy is interfering with airline freqs.
Said pal was scanning t'other night and got a harmonic almost on top of a private airline frequency and when I tested on my scanner I found harmonics all across the commercial FM band and further afield.
Lads, I enjoy your station (when the dance music is "pompin!") but please, test your tranny and ancillary equipment and get things sorted before trouble rears its ugly head.
I'm not trying to scare-monger, this is a serious situation and needs to get sorted, so please don't flame me.

In all friendship (as an ex-buccaneer myself),

Hack

[Guest]

i find taht hard to believe considering they are using one of the best made txs in the world( cte). furthermore their link is only 5 watts so i doubt that will effect any airlines.

[Guest]

Go up forth mountain and youll know all about harmonics. kiss fm are blockin out my telly theyd wanna sort it out cos my patience is running thin

[Guest]

I have scanned on both forth mountain AND near mount Leinster and have'nt found harmonics. I doubt a CTE would throw harmonics onto the airline frequeny unless the station was over modulating. If you REALLY have a problem with your TV I would suggest you first make sure its Kiss FMs TX and if you're confident it is, contact them about it. They seem to know what they're doing and I doubt they would put a dirty rig on air.

Whenever anything negative is said here about energy it seems someone comes back with a "but kiss fm are......" and vice versa... I've been a radio enthusiast for some time now (hate to admit it but I'm headin' for my fifties) and I know radio is a 'bitchy' business but is it all really necessary?

P.S. Got a peek at kisses studio, they were VERY cagy about letting me see it though!

[Hack]

You the guy with the aerial farm out Ballycogley way, Eddie?

[pa transistor]

Your right there Eddie. Firstly in your comment about a cte rig and secondly about bitching. I dont know why people keep getting the dig about kiss fm when somethings said about energy. I suppose its inevitable that something like that was gonna happen, but i know for a fact energy dosent feel like that. Theres plenty of scope there for both stations to operate successfully. so best of luck to everyone involved. It takes a lot of hard work and money to get those stations on air.

[Guest]

Wow! did'nt know so many people wrote on this....! Just reading the posts, as far as I know we have a clean signal but if that guy really does have interference caused by our TX then let him raise his head and speak.

To the Energy Guys, whaddya say we get the ppl from kiss and energy and go out on the piss together some night, give all of em on here something to talk about! Eddie could come and bring his monster scanner and we could all sit in a pub and have a competition to see who's throwing off the most and worst harmonics! :)

Anyway, Keep up the good work Energy, gud luck with it.

KISS

P.S. Huge apologies for the link interference, did'nt do my homework good enough on the link freq.

[Dan Ruane]

Sounds good you pick the location and well bring the beer ,in relation to the harmonics our engineers have assured us that our signal is clean and that is sufficent for me , Kiss fm and Energy have a good relationship on and off air so please if you are tryin to stir the **** do it elsewhere.




Daniel Ruane
Energy 105.8 Station Manager
Contact 085 7191120
mailto:danielruane@eircom.net

[Guest]

I'll be in touch Dan! I have been assured that our signal is also clean. Dunno where people get strange ideas?!

Just noticed we're being Jammed. The signal is effecting reception in Wex. Town area. Obviously someone has a problem with us on air. Ah well, what can u do when yer dealing with people like that.

Cheers!

[pa transistor]

You would want plenty of drink to fill all those Energy djs anyway.
22 djs. Now that's a lot of drinking. I wouldn't like to be paying for that staff party. lol

[Hack]

Sorry mateys, as I said in my post, I'm not trying to stir s***e, just making a point about harmonics. However, they seem to be gone now so well done.
Question: why is Energy off air so much?

[pa transistor]

Why are energy off air so much? Well its a very long and touchy subject
and to be honest a lot of th people working at energy dont even know
whats happening. Needless to say they have moved studio to a completely different location and changed their
audio slightly, although i still think that needs to be worked on badly.
Mics are soundig way better also. Rds should be added this week awell. At long last.
Im helping the guys with some of the tech work. New rig hopefully be on air
soon to as it says in the other post by moi. Hey hack let me know of your reception
reports when we activate the new rig- well that is if you are in wexford town. Just
finalising details with wex town tx site. Cheers Hack

[Hack]

Reception in Wexford town at the mo is excellent apart from when I've got the walkman on.... it fades badly and breaks up then.
Will listen out for the all-new super-duper audio mit RDS!

[Hollow man]

What Processor are you using Energy?? and is it true that kiss fm have put on an optimod? I heard that and I have noticed a big difference in audio, sounds like one to me. Doesnt anyone here know what setup they're running?

I also noticed a difference in energys audio, did u change compressor or adjust the existing one?

[pa transistor]

dunno what the lads at kiss are using sounds good in fairness, however
I dont think its an optimod. Listen carefully. Energy havent changed the
processor (though i wish they would- hopefully soon) its just been adjusted
and dosent pump as much with bass. damn i hate that pumping. But then
its all money and you get what you pay for.

[Guest]

Optimod 8100A

[pa transistor]

With a Bheringer Condensor mic and a Bheringer mic compressor!
Didnt think it was an orban though leigh But sure anyway it sounds good,
so fair play. Audio very low and hissy in enniscorthy though. No chance
of pushing a bit more power from the good oul mountan site?

[Guest]

Yeah. Orban but its only gone on in the last 2 weeks... we were using other stuff before that. R U comparing to the 8200? (used by 2fm,today fm and SER I think) The 8100 doesnt sound quite as sweet, the XT2 add on might bring it closer to that standard of audio. However if u listen carefully you can hea the optimod characteristics.

News travels fast does'nt it! (about the mike) but its not all that hard to guess where the information came from! lol

Anyway, best of luck with your current problem (Danny told me), U seem to have gotten back on your feet VERY quickly! well done.

Yours in Radio!

KISS FM.

[Dogger]

SER use an Orban 8100A.

[pa transistor]

dogger is right leigh. ser do use an 8100a. Im ashamed, thought you would
know that being best friends with them. lol

[kiss FM]

I know SER did have an 8100a WITH the XT2 but I had heard they changed for an 8200... obviously I was miss informed.

Did'nt u know, me and them fell out ever since I tried to get Tony Kehoe to come work for me. They told me to go and find my own country'n'irish DJ! So I said "you lot are finished with me!" lol

[Guest]

Tony Kehoe, ah now tell the truth it was really when you offered lorraine
Byrne the comeback package with the kiss company car. But i heard she said
she just couldnt refuse one of those little ser vans!!!!


o yes the sarcasim on here these days is brilliant. lol


yours- the mega watt one
pa transistor

[Tabasco]

SER are using an Optimod 8100A with XT2, plus a couple of other boxes before it to 'customise' the sound a little.

The bass is better than a stand-alone Optimod, and the separation is enhanced.

The digital studio-transmitter link and the non-use of crap CTE exciter also helps!

rgds

[kiss FM]

But they feed their smaller TX's from 95.6 (ie. 96.4, 96.2) so the only TX digitally linked is the one on Mt. Leinster. The audio is very nice though.

[Tabasco]

Well yes, the transmitters on 96.2 (Gorey and Enniscorthy) and 96.4 (Forth Mt and New Ross) are rebroadcasts of Mt Leinster on 95.6, but as Mt Leinster is digitally linked from Wexford, and the rebroadcasts use composite stereo audio feeds not demodulated discrete L and R, the relay transmitters' audio is identical in quality to 95.6.

So all transmitters benefit from the digital STL.

The exception is Wexford Town 96.2, which radiates from SE's building and is fed straight from the Optimod.

Leigh, your audio is nice at the moment but it is over-deviating a little. I measured it peaking at 130%. If you want to sound 'legal' then I'd back it down a touch if I were you.

Also, when the signal gets weak it can sound distorted on some radios if the dev is too high.

With an 8100A, or any analogue processor, it's just not possible to sound as loud as stations like 2FM and Today FM who use digital processors, while staying within the industry standard +/- 75kHz deviation.

rgds

[pa transistor]

How come tabasco the rds on ser's transmitters is different on the tara hill
tx to that of the other two txs. It has a little dash between the south and east
Surly if there all fed from the same source and rds encoder with the af function on
the text should read the same. I didnt reaise that the wex town tx was on
96.2. I thought it was on 96. Why have it on the same frequency as tara hill

[Tabasco]

It's not.

The RDS is the same on all txs ( Sth East ) except Wexford Town 96.2, which is like this: sth-east .

Wexford Town used to be on 96, but there were problems with RDS radios looking for 96 when not in the Wexford area and giving short blasts of Radio Kilkenny (96.0). In any case SE wanted to have as few frequencies as possible - it helps in marketing and RDS radios take less time to search.

Enniscorthy os also on 96.2. It works ok as Wexford, Enniscorthy and Aske Hill (not Tara Hill), Gorey are well separated and are reasonably low power.

Your radio may still show the hyphen when tuned to Aske Hill, because you memorised the channel when in Wexford. Some radios memorise the PI code and display the name associated with that.

And the different format of the RDS was done solely so it's easy for the station's engineer to see what freq he's listening to when driving around Wexford.

[021]

Cork 96FM's transmitter near Mallow on 96.1 used also have a slightly different RDS name (it even included the letter N for a while!), but this is no longer the case. The station name is now the same on 96.1, 96.4 etc.
However there are still differences in that the 96.1 has no RadioText whilst 96.4 etc has,

BTW its not just pirates making the mistake of overmoding, in West Cork we have 95.8 sounding too loud (compared to 96.4)!