new licensing laws in from Today

[The Real Stuttering John]

as far as I know today is d-day for clubs. It will now be illegal to have any entertainment during drinking up time. Which means no music, no dancing no .......

It is now illegal and a criminal offence to dance in Ireland when the bar shuts which apparently will stop people from drinking as much even if the bar is closed!!!!!

Clubs that have a liceanse till 1.30 on a thurs,2.30 on a fri and sat and 1am on the other nights will have to stop the music at that time.

Also happy hours and drinks promotions are gone from today

[KJ]

That's 11.30 closing for bars/pubs on Thursday from tonight then John?

[Boston Barney]

Just to let everybody know,

All sections of the new act will come into operation from monday 18th of august, apart from the following provissions which will come into operation on monday 29th of september:

# Section 10(thursday closing time at 11.30)
# Section 14(restrictions of persons under 18)
# Section 15(Production of ID for 18 to 20 yrs old)
# Section 16(b)(ii)(15 to 17 yrs old to be prrmises after 9pm, unless atteding private funtion where a significant meal is being served)
# Section 19(transfer of juristiction to district court)
# Section 23(Application of act to registered clubs in so far as it relates to section 15 and 19)
# Section 25 in so far as it inserts section 15(3) of the equal status act 2000(this safeguards the discretion of the licensees in relation to the presence of persons under 18yrs in the bar of a licensed premises)

Published in the evening herald today!
It does state that .... prohibition on entertainment during drinking up time

All i have to say is cheers!!!
Thanking you minister Mcdowell

Barney:cheers:

[max power]

its not minister mcdowell, its daddy mcdowell, we are all his stupid children who have no thoughts of our own and can't be trusted with a happy hour....now how do i tie these shoe laces ????

[Sarah Baybay]

:confused: wonder will he be bringing out legislation on that eh??:confused: :rolleyes:

[LisaLavish]

this country is just unbelieveably SAD!!
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[Ginger]

Gotta say The Real Stuttering John puts up a good argument .

[KJ]

Pasted as is from my Inbox ...........




Subject: New Drink Laws


This is going to cramp your style........



> Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003
>
Ireland's new Intoxicating Liquor Act was enacted yesterday.
Congratulations
> to the Minister for Justice, Equality & Law Reform for he has
just taken
> another step towards a nanny state. Some highlights of the new
bill
> include:

>
> It's now illegal to be drunk on a licensed premises
>
> Thursday closing is now back to 2300
>
> The Gardai now have the right to enter a pub in plain clothes
>
> Gardai can now video tape you leaving a pub/club to prove the
pub served
> you drunk
>
> Happy Hours & drinks promotions have been banned( what the law
actually
> says is that its illegal to serve drink at a cheaper period at
any time
> during the day...how does this work in dublin pubs where the
price of
drink
> goes up at night..does this not mean at drink will have to be
the same
> price at all times during the day )
>
> Drink up time cannot have any entertainment whatsoever
>
> Pubs can now once again descriminate against age when allowing
entry to
the
> premises
>
> A pub/off license can not sell alcohol to a person to be
consumed within
> 100m of the premises

[max power]

sitting here in work with not much to do, so for the fun i rang a garda station in the capital to ask them what do they consider to be a drunk person, all i heard at the other end of the phone was silence so i asked to speak to a more senior officer, he came on to the phone and i posed the same question. off he went on a rant about the youth of today blah blah blah, i then asked him the question again he told me it wass up to each garda to deciede if someone was drunk, so there is going to be fun in the courts when a garda has to tell how he knew someone was drunk !!!

[father_ted9t9.]

With the new law, Gardai are allowed if needs be to on the spot test people as if like on drink driving cases. So That means if anyone puts up any trouble with the gardai saying they are not drunk all the gardai have to do is breathalyse them.

[max power]

its funny that the people that are meant to be doing the law enforcing don't know the laws ?????? or how to enforce them either

[max power]

meant to say this in previuos post, what amount of achohol is comsidered too much by a breathaliser ??? the same as driving, habe two pints and i can get fined for being drunk.
there is nothing that says how much is too much, its not like the drink driving laws, x amount you are over the limit, there is no set limit in the new act, just a vague statement, the first case in front of ther courts should be fun.

your honour the person was drunk.

prove it

we breathalised him and eh eh,

yes,

he had been drinking


but does that mean he was drunk ?????


its vague isnt it ????

[father_ted9t9.]

The breathyliser tests the alcohol level in a person. It has been proven that different levels of alcohol from the test provide different information. This is from an official web site..


"Impairment from alcohol poisoning was originally defined by blood alcohol levels. It was observed that most people showed measurable mental impairment at around 0.05% blood alcohol concentration (BAC). Above this level it has been found that motor functions deteriorate progressively with increased blood alcohol concentrations. For the average person, unconsciousness results by 0.4% BAC. Above 0.5% (BAC), basic body functions such as the breathing or the beating action of the heart can be depressed to the point that death can occur"

check it out yourself people, the machine does not lie!!

http://www.intox.com/about_alcohol_testing.asp#What

[max power]

for the first time in the past few weeks i agree with you ted, that the machine does not lie. but a machine can only give readings, from the data given, it can not give an informed ecision on an indivual person, every person is different and while there must be a level for drink driving , going out at night and saying i have had 4 pints now after the next one i WILL be drunk, the machine says i'm drunk so i must be........

its the vagueness of it all that makes me scratch my head, drunk and disorderly is fine, he was messing fine him, there is something to back up the fact he was well oiled.

but just to say drunk is fague. the machine has set levels inside and just measures and processes data, what do you think ???

[Turiel]

http://www.justice.ie/802569B20047F907/vWeb/wpJBDN5PWJNR

Its the full Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003 document, just in case anyone is interested what is in the actual law.

Be careful when you buy the next round of drinks for your friends, if they're drunk you can be fined €2000 for each drink you buy them. Seriously. Ok, its not likely to be enforced to that extent, but still....

[Voyeur]

pretty damn good excuse too, for all the scrooges out there!! :lol:

[KJ]

Crazy

Anyone see today's herald about Bertie and his group of wasters?

Im voting for the Green Party next time around


Something Im very curious about - will ALL nightclubs have to close on Thursday at 1am from next month??


KJ

[Turiel]

Don't they have to already? (well, 1.30am)

[Ivan Eego]

Heard same rumour 'bout clubs closing on thursday at 1am

Anybody know the truth :confused:

[Pistol]

Was doin a gig tonight in a bar. 11:30 da Garda comes and tells me to turn the music off NOW. The place was packed, i was just gettin into a little oldskool set the peoples were dancin and singin. I had to cut the track half way through. Got loads of dirty looks and a few booo's. I forgot the law was changing yesterday, woops. It was great coz i got home about 11:50, very handy.

Im looking forward to tonight, finished at 11:30 again...

Is this a good thing for the Disco Bar DJ or is it a disaster? I dont really think it will make a difference, but thats just me! :)