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Mike Flynn
3rd July 2003, 06:45
Irish Times Jamie Smyth, Technology Reporter

Cable firms Chorus and NTL asked the Government yesterday to consider subsidising a national digital television service using their existing wireless networks.

The proposed service would provide households in rural areas with digital television using MMDS, a fixed wireless microwave technology already in use in many parts of the Republic.

The firms believe subsidising the roll-out of MMDS rather than investing in a technology called digital terrestrial television is the best way to create a national digital television network.

NTL and Chorus suggest the new service would provide an Irish alternative to the Sky satellite platform and the BBC's new free satellite service, which is due to operate from July 10th.

The cable firms made a submission to the Government yesterday when they met the Minister for Communications, Mr Ahern, as part of an IBEC delegation discussing the threat posed by the BBC's decision to offer its television and radio channels free to Irish users via satellite.

This service, provided via the Astra satellite, will enable people with a satellite dish and set top box to get up to 90 channels without paying any subscription to a platform provider.

IBEC's telecoms and internet federation (TIF) told Mr Ahern that "freesat" would cause Ireland to lose its broadcasting sovereignty and could lead to Irish job losses.

Mr Tommy McCabe, director of the federation, said the BBC's "FreeSat" service would seriously undermine the cable and MMDS industry sectors and affect the broader context of future telecoms in Ireland.

The federation, which also represents RTÉ, TV3 and TG4, also warned "freesat" may seriously undermine scope for a digital terrestrial television network, a plan currently under review by the Government.

IBEC believes a national digital terrestrial television service could be established by a public private partnership.

However, the Government halted a tender process to choose an operator for digital terrestrial television last year because no firm could raise the €50 million required to launch the service.

Mr Willie Fagan, director of regulatory affairs at Chorus, told The Irish Times yesterday the ability of a digital terrestrial television service to compete was questionable.

He said the Government should consider using existing MMDS technology to offer a national service. This could be done in conjunction with any new digital terrestrial television service set up by the State.

NTL, which provides digital television services to almost 20,000 users via MMDS technology, also favours promoting a national MMDS service as a means to combat the threat of "freesat".

It is understood both firms want the Government to subsidise the roll-out of digital set top boxes across the State.

They also want ComReg to change the terms of their MMDS licences to enable them to offer the service.

NTL and Chorus provide television services to about 550,000 homes, although only a fraction of these have been upgraded to offer digital television.

Digital television offers consumers more channels and better quality picture and sound. The establishment of a national digital television service would enable the Government to turn off the analogue television signal and use this spectrum for different uses.

Liamo
28th July 2003, 10:57
Aside from my underlying wish to support Irish businesses and jobs instead of UK companies, I am reaching the end of my wits with Chorus...the signal is absolutely woeful!

BBC2 and Eurosport are barely watchable; I'd admit that I don't watch them much, apart from "Have I Got News for You" and "Alistar McGowan" on Fridays, but that's not the point! We're paying for a basic set of channels that are nowhere near the quality required to watch properly!

Of the basic set of channels that Chorus have, about 3 of them have what I'd call a good signal, 6 of them have barely enough signal to drive the teletext, the above 2 are woeful, and the others suffer occasional banding!

Back in the 80s we had a better signal than this on a UHF relay from PAL Electronics with a once-off purchase of an aerial !

I've cribbed before about the pros and cons of the limitations of digital and letting the UK take over our services, but whoever gave Chorus the monopoly without checking up on their services should be shot! The only option available (given their analogue service, I wouldn't trust their digital service) is to go Sky!

To give money to this crowd so that they can keep charging us for third-rate services would be criminal! If there's a grant going, let it go to a new company which might provide competition and get Chorus to get their ass in gear!

stingray353
28th July 2003, 16:07
I'm not a techincal person but wasn't there a lot of giving out at the time of the launch of MMDS services that it was very limited and could really only provide a small number of channels (12 I think!)

Does digital allow the carriage of more channels within these 12 channels?

Anyhow, I resisted the urge at the time and use SKY but with BBC now freely available maybe it's time to review!

Mike
29th July 2003, 20:42
Digital allows more channels but ComReg have announced that the allocation is to be cut from 11/12 to 8 channels" and may be cut further due to demands for frequencies for 3G mobile phones

* 8MHz channels thats is (equivalent to One analouge channel or between two and ten digital ones depending on quality)

Alan Green
29th July 2003, 20:53
Chorus and NTL are real half-witted organisations.... I know first hand from dozens of people I know personally (and my own experience) that their service is pretty poor and there's a lot of displeasure with both of them... bring back Cablelink!