Another thread all about Euan

[Euan Roberts]

Euan ........... Im starting to doubt your sanity man, go out and get laid/steamboats drunk/take up fishing ...... whatever ...... just please stop with your ill-informed bitter views on the site,

As posted by Kelly Jones: Think before you type pal

Kelly jones

You and others with your illinformed assumptions about me. You don't know me. My life is so much more fulfilling than Going to Club M, creamfields or whatever people like you do whether it be for work or leisure purposes. I've met people like you, and i said to myself get me out of here. How boring the company was. You all have big egoes and very cocky and are sure of yourselves. It was stiffling. How empty your lives must be. Getting laid, getting drunk, playing in near deafening nite-clubs.

Furthermore, How awfully silly you sound when you attempt to attack me for my opinions. I don' t have bitter opinions, but i have slowly become bitter towards a small group of very hostile, jealous anoraks that enjoy forcing all their opinions on me, yet i shouldn't respond.

For your information although i doubt you care, My interests lie in going to the Theatre, Cinema, Rock and Jazz Gigs, You name it and Frankly i refute your allegation that i should as you so crudely put it, get laid , get drunk. I don't need drink, drugs, seedy nite-clubs or to get laid to enjoy myself unlike you and others. My personal and social life are very fulfilling at all times.

In additon, my sanity is very intact, i guess my frustration comes across by the likes of you Kelly and others than never ever see my point of view. You always think there is a hidden agenda. Your wrong and you know it. So stop making yourself look good.

Euan Roberts

[Earthworm Jim]

Im going to try and go about this in the nicest possible way in the hope that you might see some sense and not just ignore what i say as another person with something against you and out to destroy you. Im saying this for your own good and the sanity of most the people here. Im NOT going to hunt out every post you have posted and point out where i think you went wrong, what i am going to do is look at your posts in the 2 most recent posts.

First though as a general proposition. You tend to give out about people who attack you for having an opinion and rightly defend your right to have said opinion....here's the thing. You dont attempt to give YOUR opinion, you have a tendency to give THE opinion. Whether you mean it this way or not, you can take my word that you come accross as saying "This is how it is. Full stop. Capital Letter", then when someone disagrees with you, you say that (a)They are wrong (b)They have a personal vendetta against you (c) They are ignorant and stupid and have no idea what they are talking about....(The rest of the alphabet=something else) And thats a problem. Again not saying that you are, but your posts are at times very condescending and you are simply getting the lash back from that. People dont like you telling them that they are wrong and you are right, thats not discussion or debating, thats preaching....and there i have just stumbled upon what may well be the perfect word to describe your posts, i've been trying to put my finger on it for ages, and there it is PREACHER!!! Im sorry mate, this isnt because im mis-judging you etc etc etc before you start. I am fully aware of how i dont know anything about you and i cant comment on you other than what i know of you from your posts. You are a preacher. In your posts, stear away from preaching and people will stear away from "attacking" you (well, they'll be less likely to attack anyway) Just my advice....

As for some of the more controversial posts

Get him off
Greg Gaughran should not be on East Coast Radio. He is doing radio a disservice and he knows that himself. I gotta Say no other radio station would touch him because they know he is a liablity.

Now, that was actually quite a tame example but still "He knows that himself"? You are quite simply not in a position to say something like that, this will piss people off(and coincidently did). Then when people disagree with you and say in their opinion he is entitled to and should be on radio you accuse them of being paid by him? Therein lies the problem. You will NOT let people disagree with you. You are right, greg shouldnt be on radio, end of story and how dare anybody suggest otherwise, the idiots how can they be so stupid. This is an argument noone can win. You dont think he should others do, how can anyone be right? You cant, they cant. So why bother posting it. The positions are well known, any further posting is simply going around in circles

Now as for the last post of yours in the "Best and Worst DJ" thing....im not even sure where to start "whatever people like you do" Thats condescending, preaching and ignorant all in 5 words, how can you not expect things like that to inflame people? You say "I've met people like you" and 3 lines earlier have given out about "others with your illinformed assumptions about me" How can you not see the hyprocisy(though the spelling there may need some tinkering with!!) You know nothing about Kelly and for the record he is a very nice bloke by the way, not that that seems of much import to you...

Anyway the list goes on and on. on numerous occasions you have actually had to apologise for the contents of your posts, so surely you can see that you often go too far, or at least are too forthright in your postings. Just to sum up, i call you a preacher. Before you reply to this and even think about slagging me or what have you, note that i am trying to help you here. You may not like what is written here i cant help that. Im not saying it reflects on you as a person, i am saying it reflects your personality as comes across in your posts and i think, though clearly i cant say, that many people will agree with a lot of what i've said. I called you a preacher in your posts. Before you say im wrong, in the last line of your best/worst dj post you say "Your wrong and you know it"...good luck trying to convince me im wrong on this one.... Euan i think you've got some great things to say, it'd be a shame to lose your contribution, just try taking your foot off the pedal in some posts. Sorry, had to be said. Oh one final thing, the more you defend yourself on this one the more you are going to be attacked especially if your defenses get childish and ridiculous and well, re-read your last best/worst post...dont do that, its not helping

EJ

"The only one who could ever reach me......was a son of a ?????"

[Painted Press]

i admire the way that John F has defended Euen for his right to free speech - but I think he should draw the line somewhere!

Euan has consistently made brash illinformed statements, lied, contradited himself, and caused general bad feeling, and hurt severals individuals by his "opinions".

If I was posting such rubbish I'm sure that I would not be allowed post on this site, let alone be defended day after day by the webmaster.


Let's do a little reconstruction! Here's one of Euan's illiterate posts:

"Most Dance DJ's are terrible including Andy P, Alan Gibbs, Stephen Cooper, Johnny Moy, you name it. They all sound the same, and have only some knowledge of other kinds of music. Disgraceful it is."

They all sound the same? They only have some knowledge of other kinds of music? How do you know this Euan??? And what's disgraceful - the music??


"How about this, because of Dance music and the real rave kind of stuff that some Dance DJ's play, this has greatly contributed to clubbers having the perfect excuse to take the drug ecstasy more often. I dislike them for that, It must make alot of people sick to think that Rave music and other forms of music as above mentioned are responsible for the widespread use of Ecstasy in our clubs, Bars, and especially Ibiza. "

?????? Euan dislikes dance djs because of the prolofferation of drugs surrounding the scene? Interesting to see that he has difficulty separating the programme "Ibiza Uncovered" with the island of Ibiza, actually a lovely location?

"The place should be shut down for good. Furthermore this Drug will turn most of these young people that have taken Ecstasy into wallkng vegetables in a couple of years time, you wait and see. I rest my case. "

What place should be shut down for good? Ibiza??? shut down Ibiza? or is this just an abstract, angry stab at every place that plays dance music?

What kind of illinformed ranting bullshit is this??

I really think that the time has come for us to ignore Euan Roberts when he posts outrageous stuff like this.

I also dont understand why Admin doesn't have a word with Euan, remove some of his more controversial (and I point out, libellous in some cases), instead of standing by him every time!

The guy is obviously a lunatic!

My piece..

[Euan Roberts]

Two lovely posts from two very very hostile anoraks. MY sugguestions are obviously not taken seriously. I'm not liked for my numerous posts and according to most people i'm a F**king lunatic. What a lovely discription about someone you don't know. I'm deeply upset and horrified at how these two people could write such posts. I think i'll sign off.

Euan Roberts

Euan Roberts

[Elaine]

stop the madness

[Jimbob]

"I think i'll sign off.

Euan Roberts"


Bye now Euan, Cya , Good luck , close the door after you ,don’t stop when you get to the earths core.

Now maybe we can continue a normal debate instead of this stupidity that happens every time he posts to the board. I can’t see how these posts are left up. I and others have had posts removed for less ( and rightly so if they contained unsuitable wording written in a moment of weakness) . John can you explain why you defend his postings all the time.
You have seen the annoyance that is caused by the ill-informed judgments he makes on people and there opinions.
I think some form of explanation is in order after all we were all asked to stop having a go at him . At what point does this need to stop.

[Earthworm Jim]

two very very hostile anoraks

Eh, i actually cant believe that. I was as nice as anyone could possibly be given what i was trying to say to you. Right well i tried to help, i tried to explain why i thought people were gunning from you, i didnt resort to a personal attack as such, refining my comment strictly to the content of your posts, and expressly saying that it may not be a true reflection on you personally and STILL you are deeply upset by my post? Whats this they say, the truth hurts?

I was really hoping that my post would help you see the lite(pun intended) Euan, if you cant even distinguish between someone genuinly trying to help and someone who is a very very hostile anorak then I wont bother in future. Good luck mate, if you keep posting the way you are, keep writing everyone of as "against you" when they try and help and keep getting upset everytime someone slates you you're going to be an emotional wreck soon. Keep posting the way you are now, they'll keep replying the way they are now. Karma! And I, well i will simply sit by a laugh at it all, since my efforts to help have fallen on deaf ears.

[DeargDoom]

How many times can you be polite to Euan? Hes a daw brain


(from the big ego and cocky Dearg Doom who spent last night in Club M getting drunk and trying to get laid - and lovin' it, perhaps you should try it some time Euan!)

[3cx1500A7]

Those last posts just about sum it up pretty well Euan.Just a couple of points though.
A couple of nights ago you inferred that I had incorrectly spelt Chris Cary's surname & then fecked off before allowing me to back up my spelling.Check out ChrisCary.com. Secondly,you may have good views or points to make about Newstalk 106 but replying to your own posts using multiple usernames e.g. Ginger,is just plain sad,sad,sad.:o

[John Fleming]

It is strange that Painted Press can give out about Euan and his 'brash, ill- informed opinions' and then make generalised statements about our (not just mine!) moderation here without actually knowing the truth of what's gone on behind the scenes.

I'm afraid calling somebody a lunatic puts you right in the same place as you relegated Euan to. The post would have had to be removed but for the fact that Euan has already seen it, and responded to it - so the damage has been done.

I'm starting to feel like a constantly spinning record stuck in a groove on this one, but for one last time, i have only ever defended Euan's right not to be attacked personally for his beliefs, a right we defend everyone for here - unfortunately Euan needs it more than most, and he has been known to accept responsibility for that.
Disagree with him, strongly if necessary (debate is what we're here for), but do not attack him - or anyone else here - in a personal manner. then the boards will be more enjoyable for all.

"If I was posting such rubbish I'm sure that I would not be allowed post on this site"
This site is for gossip and opinions about radio, the criteria that those opinions are not rubbish doesn't come into it. And again, you are making generalised, sweeping statements about our moderation - exactly the kind of thing Euan keeps getting accused of.

Finally, PP, you have no idea whether Admin has had a word with Euan or how many (if any) of his posts have been removed. There's that ill-informed comment that Euan is accused of again.

Once, once more, feedback of this sort is requested in private (as mentioned so many times). Then those ill-informed comments can become informed ones.

Jimbob, as stated so many times on this board, explanations will be given in private - not in public. Your desire is for "a normal debate", that is not served by us all airing our filthy laundry here. Your point about being asked not to attack him has been covered above.

I find it difficult to comprehend that a few people cannot distinguish between having a go at someone's views as opposed to having a go at someone for his views.

[Dane Bowers]

Perhaps if Euan doesn't like people criticising him on this site he should refrain from starting threads about himself.

[John Fleming]

Dane,

Euan is not guilty on this occasion...what you see here was split from the 'favourite dj' thread in the General Radio forum, i should have made that clear...

but the point was that Euan turned a thread on its head where radio was not being discussed anymore, and maybe he should have posted to this forum?

[Slicklink]

Fair is Fair John, this guy has pretty strong feelings on radio and any fair comment in return dont seem to reach his ears..... he takes it as personal attack and immediately goes on the defensive with individual replies (in his posts) to those that have disagreed with what has to be said are sometimes bald and often way off the mark statements. If I didnt know better I'd reckon it was someone out to wind up some less than diplomatic members of the board, but I take evrything at face value, so benefit of the doubt......

Has anyone noticed that recent threads/posts started by this guy have been to say the least “controversial” and/or inflammatory. What the pattern here ?

- Greg East Coast – Get him off
- Best and Worst Disc Jockeys on Radio –Terrible/Dismissive/Unfair
- Newstalk is looking Bad
- Lite Fm Changes (“To be honest with you, jocks are greedy greedy people with big egos and been in radio you should know that instead of siding with these people”)
- All Read – Hell (“Billy, you really are determined to make life hell for me on this forum. I hope your enjoying it whatever gives you most pleasure”)
- Greg Gaughrans driving home for more than Christmas – Pay the price
- All Read – Stop B*tching – Stop Stop Stop
- Bring back Vinyl – (Billy are you that bored that you have to copy my posts….)


The short term solution to this guys is not to reply to posts like these. Then we wont have threads that go into 5 pages of counter defence and explanations afterall its becoming embarrassing to read (and embarrassing to post here with all the b i t c h i n g going on). And an embarrasment for yourself John that this nonsense is on the board instead of decent discussion about RADIO, ok thats my bit...

[John Fleming]

Slicklink,

Thanks for the reasoned comments.

Again, people are making assumptions about the moderation here which is not based on facts, simply because it is all being posted publicly, and i have continually asked for it to be done in private, for precisely the reasons you yourself state:

its becoming embarrassing to read (and embarrassing to post here with all the b i t c h i n g going on). And an embarrasment for yourself John that this nonsense is on the board instead of decent discussion about RADIO

I am toying with the idea of taking all these type of posts down immediately, rather than having these sort of threads develop.

For the record: Euan has contacted us on a number of occasions. He has complained about posts privately and i've had to deal with his complaints accordingly.

Nobody else has contacted me privately, preferring to post publicly, despite it being stated many times here that privately is the preferred option...so what are we to do?

Euan has also been contacted by me personally about his conduct. Each time he has 'threatened' to stop posting, and but then shows regret and apologises for all the problems he causes. Except he always returns to his old self very quickly.

It has also occured to me that he might be some kind of wind-up artist, but i do also prefer to take people at face-value, and will continue to do so in Euan's case. however, i have a feeling he won't be posting here again....through his own choice.

At 'face-value' Euan has been responsible for the development of many excellent threads. He also stated publicly here at one point that he was suffering from an illness that makes him how he is, which is why a certain level of tolerance has been shown by us. But, unfortunately, more and more lately, his 'rants' (for want of a better word), have started to take on a life of their own and are threatening to engulf the whole board.

We have never taken the option of banning anyone here. The idea is simply to have a message board where others can come and discuss their passion (without being attacked for it). Why this is so difficult in Ireland (thousand welcomes my arse!) compared to similar message boards in other countries, is beyond me.

[Dane Bowers]

ok, oopsy. Sorry Euan!

[mattbrat24]

Hi,
I do not post much on this website but have posted a few comments on various matters. I have seen a lot of pleasant posts from many people and lots of supportive posts too and enjoy reading the boards.

When I see this type of thing happening (the type of stuff in this thread) it seems a shame to me after all the good stuff that goes on on this board. John Fleming who takes the time to find news every day and manage radiowaves should get more thanks than this.

Would it not be better for you guys to call a truce and enjoy the content on offer on this board? I think so...

Thanks,
Matthew Lowry
www.matthewlowry.co.uk

[Euan Roberts]

Hi Anoraks,

A few points, i have read over and over again all your commentaries, opinions, constructive criticisms and general cirticisms of me over the last seven days. They have all made an impact on me personlly. I never set out to cause consternation, controversy, havoc, confusion, illusions amongst so many people on this web-site. I personally feel responsible for all my actions. That is a very hard statement to sometimes admit to someone because one has to be certain they mean what they say. Yes, i do mean what i say this time, no buts okay.

I have been accused and rightly of been hypocritical, making wild contradictions, wild of the wall assumptions, been plain ignorant onsome of my facts in my posts. I didn't set out to offend, criticise, attack people, but merely to offer my opinion. Unfortunately, i have made a very negative impact on some people perception of me as an individual. I have gone over board and yes i have refuse to admit i'm wrong on occasions.

I am working on all these aspects at the moment so please don't jump to any conclusions. One thing that is certain, is i won't be generating anymore of this carry on such of the last few weeks for my own sanity and well- being. Furthermore, for the good of all contributors on this web-site that post some excellent threads on radio and other related subjects. I think the time has come to have a valuable purpose and contribution on Radio- Waves without freaking, stressing people out.

As John Fleming has stated, i suffer from a illness that does impact alot on what i say so the less i say the better in my posts. Furthermore, I refute John's assertion that i'm a wind artist, far from it. I'm the genuine article, no strings attached. However i do thank him for his kind sentiments on what he said concerning my contribution to some threads. Nevetheless, i'm just one individual, many people have also posted excellent threads okay. I guess think before i type is the key to this puzzle. Or else people get pissed off.

Good Luck

Euan Roberts. (No alias)

[NetworkNews]

Classic stuff this. Where are you now Euan?

[Declan Walsh]

Having read this thread, I do hope that Euan Roberts is ok. Over the years, I have seen reference to said chap. I joined after he stopped contributing so this is the first time I have spoken about the guy.

In my opinion, and I would not dare suggest that it is THE OPINION, this chap was a very intelligient guy who had some kind of disorder that caused him to lose the run of himself at times. His last post here was certainly most articulate, eloquent, courteous and acknowledged that people had a point in what they said against him.

I feel sorry for this chap, who I sense underneath it all is a decent skin. There was something vaguely sad about Euan Roberts (in my opinion of course).

Again, please God (or whatever your personal beliefs are) Euan is doing fine.

Euan, it would be nice to hear from you on these boards - even just once - so that we can all move on, happy in the knowledge that things are ok with you.


Over and out:
Declan.

[anto]

Having read this thread, I do hope that Euan Roberts is ok. Over the years, I have seen reference to said chap. I joined after he stopped contributing so this is the first time I have spoken about the guy.

In my opinion, and I would not dare suggest that it is THE OPINION, this chap was a very intelligient guy who had some kind of disorder that caused him to lose the run of himself at times. His last post here was certainly most articulate, eloquent, courteous and acknowledged that people had a point in what they said against him.

I feel sorry for this chap, who I sense underneath it all is a decent skin. There was something vaguely sad about Euan Roberts (in my opinion of course).

Again, please God (or whatever your personal beliefs are) Euan is doing fine.

Euan, it would be nice to hear from you on these boards - even just once - so that we can all move on, happy in the knowledge that things are ok with you.


Over and out:
Declan.

i remember euan well having been on the receiving end of one or ten of his rants,having said that i did feel sorry for him at times although he never made it easy and,like you declan,i do wish him well.i did not even realise these old threads were still here,they bring back some memories:nutter: